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The church I currently attend has three pastors. All of them preach, though their qualifications can be labeled in ascending order. The second eldest one has several masters degrees. Many in the congregation consider him the best preacher though he has stepped aside to let the youngest pastor preach 3 Sundays a month. These are the dynamics in the pulpit, not to mention the behind the scenes with church planning, decision making, and accountability and prayer partners. They also split their time meeting one-on-one with the different families in the church.
They can do a lot and still have time to be with their families, which is a benefit to having responsible brothers right along side of them. The requirements for doing funerals vary widely from state to state. In some states, literally anybody can officiate a wedding. The link did not work. What is the book? Sorry Gary.
The link still works on my end. Gary…thanks for the Tim Keller reference. I had heard about it but never read it. So good! How would prayer not fix all these things? Violence in the streets rough. If that were true, I could probably, by faith, have Lamentations and Numbers memorized! A lot of people want to be a servant to the Most High God. I get the feeling a lot of the time Paul and the other Apostles looked like fools to their followers.
Always having to take the low road and look weak.
I never thought before I became a Christian that credibility with the world was earned with a flogging stick or actual chains. Not fuzzy diamond lined bracelets but actual chains. Good stuff. I especially resonate with empowering volunteers. Hi Carey, thanks so much for this article. I definitely agree with your first 4 points so much! It was a bit disheartening to learn over the years that no matter the suggestions or desires from the congregation and even the volunteer experience and leadership some had, they were not used or else it was too late like 5 years later for something to come forth from it.
BOTH are needed. I flip-flop between wanting to go to a church that is a smaller community both on Sunday and every other day of the week, to a large church that I can disappear in and not volunteer ever again. For 5, we had the opposite problem, which is why I felt the need to pull away. And as someone mentioned below, I definitely miss the salvation message being preached. Although small, do you think these churches still need it in some way? Thanks for this Alyssa…I appreciate your perceptive and empathize with your frustration. As to the Gospel message.
I enjoyed your article. The you for sharing it. I would like to add, though, that some of this could be attributed to resource constraints, both financial, and lack of skills and knowledge.
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What if we turned this problem around and looked at it from a different angle? Could we shift this paradigm? I think a lot people who attend church want a small, intimate feel. Maybe , or is just right for their needs. Could we look at this in a different way? What if churches grew by adding many small congregations?
Is that what the denominations are doing today?
To understand this we would need to see data from the denominations to really know what is happening out. Also, what if growth from the inside was more important than growth on the outside? Are attendance numbers really the ultimate measure of success? Are spiritual needs being met? Are people growing in a relationship or in a religion? Does this change as more people fill the church building?
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My dilemma is simply this. Truly healthy things grow, and the thrust of the mission of the church is outward. As a result, growing past should seem inevitable. At least from where I sit. Hope that clarifies a bit. Thanks again! I agree that reproduction should be an outcome but maybe we need to keep an open mind that a specific number in one congregation may not be the critical measure of success.
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We need to embrace other growth measures and not exclude individual growth. What are the members doing and how are the impacting lives of those around them? Is bigger really better in this situation?
theonepato.tk I agree. Demographics must also be a consideration. We live in a small town with a very high number of churches per capita. We strive to make a difference in the community, even if those people we serve do not ever attend our church. Great thoughts here, especially in terms of strategy and scaling. A healthy organism grows and a healthy church, in theory, should grow. But how do we measure growth in terms of discipleship, impact on the community, depth of relationships, and etc. I am convinced strong organizational leadership will lead to numerical growth, i. Willow Creek was very strong organizationally, hence.
Also, I do wonder why Jesus did not create an organization of weekly attendance in the Gospels although he did have organizing principles, i.
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